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Just been reading through the BBC about the Twelfth celebrations and all it entails, and fuck me they are a seriously backwards nation. Deliberately antagonistic orange marches passing through nationalist areas and nationalists dropping pipe bombs along the routes of some of the main marches. Then some genius of an MP decides to post a picture of himself on Twitter in front of a bonfire with a tricolour on the top 

It's hard to see there ever being a properly peaceful resolution over there and there has already been talk over the last few months that nationalist paramilitary groups are on the rise again
(07-12-2016, 09:47 AM)Malcolm Tucker Wrote: [ -> ]Just been reading through the BBC about the Twelfth celebrations and all it entails, and fuck me they are a seriously backwards nation. Deliberately antagonistic orange marches passing through nationalist areas and nationalists dropping pipe bombs along the routes of some of the main marches. Then some genius of an MP decides to post a picture of himself on Twitter in front of a bonfire with a tricolour on the top 

It's hard to see there ever being a properly peaceful resolution over there and there has already been talk over the last few months that nationalist paramilitary groups are on the rise again

Seen some pictures of the bonfire where the idiots have either hung the Republic flag upside down or genuinely bought an Ivory Coast Flag by mistake.
(07-12-2016, 09:47 AM)Malcolm Tucker Wrote: [ -> ]Just been reading through the BBC about the Twelfth celebrations and all it entails, and fuck me they are a seriously backwards nation. Deliberately antagonistic orange marches passing through nationalist areas and nationalists dropping pipe bombs along the routes of some of the main marches. Then some genius of an MP decides to post a picture of himself on Twitter in front of a bonfire with a tricolour on the top 

It's hard to see there ever being a properly peaceful resolution over there and there has already been talk over the last few months that nationalist paramilitary groups are on the rise again

Northern Ireland is the 'turd' that nether the British or Irish governments really want to take full responsibility for. There is no prospect of any meaningful long term peace over there, just the realisation that at best they can keep a lid on the situation for reasonable periods of time. It's fugg all to do about religion or nationality and everything to do with criminal activity, drugs, extortion etc.
Makes me cringe when I see England football flags declaring their allegiance to loyalism.
(07-12-2016, 10:48 AM)thr1879 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-12-2016, 09:47 AM)Malcolm Tucker Wrote: [ -> ]Just been reading through the BBC about the Twelfth celebrations and all it entails, and fuck me they are a seriously backwards nation. Deliberately antagonistic orange marches passing through nationalist areas and nationalists dropping pipe bombs along the routes of some of the main marches. Then some genius of an MP decides to post a picture of himself on Twitter in front of a bonfire with a tricolour on the top 

It's hard to see there ever being a properly peaceful resolution over there and there has already been talk over the last few months that nationalist paramilitary groups are on the rise again

Northern Ireland is the 'turd' that nether the British or Irish governments really want to take full responsibility for. There is no prospect of any meaningful long term peace over there, just the realisation that at best they can keep a lid on the situation for reasonable periods of time. It's fugg all to do about religion or nationality and everything to do with criminal activity, drugs, extortion etc.
Makes me cringe when I see England football flags declaring their allegiance to loyalism.
The 'No surrender to the IRA' song is particularly depressing.
In all it's about a backward looking bunch of people who see continual hatred as the answer to their problems, thereby exacerbating the situation.
(07-12-2016, 10:51 AM)spandaubaggie Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-12-2016, 10:48 AM)thr1879 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-12-2016, 09:47 AM)Malcolm Tucker Wrote: [ -> ]Just been reading through the BBC about the Twelfth celebrations and all it entails, and fuck me they are a seriously backwards nation. Deliberately antagonistic orange marches passing through nationalist areas and nationalists dropping pipe bombs along the routes of some of the main marches. Then some genius of an MP decides to post a picture of himself on Twitter in front of a bonfire with a tricolour on the top 

It's hard to see there ever being a properly peaceful resolution over there and there has already been talk over the last few months that nationalist paramilitary groups are on the rise again

Northern Ireland is the 'turd' that nether the British or Irish governments really want to take full responsibility for. There is no prospect of any meaningful long term peace over there, just the realisation that at best they can keep a lid on the situation for reasonable periods of time. It's fugg all to do about religion or nationality and everything to do with criminal activity, drugs, extortion etc.
Makes me cringe when I see England football flags declaring their allegiance to loyalism.
The 'No surrender to the IRA' song is particularly depressing.
In all it's about a backward looking bunch of people who see continual hatred as the answer to their problems, thereby exacerbating the situation.

I think there's a generation of people now who sing that song and others without even knowing what they mean.

Josh started a "No Surrender" thread recently for Christ's sake.
Nice friends.

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THE LITTLE CATHOLIC BOY

A little Catholic boy is playing in the streets in Belfast when he comes across an Orange sash lying in the street.

Not knowing any better, he put it on and runs home. When he gets home, his father is working in the garden.

"In the name of Jesus, what's that thing round your neck"? says his father, "get upstairs to your room and take it of this instant".

So the little boy runs upstairs, there he meets his mother.

"Saints preserve us, what have you got on"? says his indignant mother, "take that thing off and put it in the bin in the back garden
immediately"!

So the little boy turns round runs down the stairs and goes out into the back garden, there he meets his grandfather.

"Holy Mary mother of God, what on earth is that you're wearing"? says his embittered grandfather, "take that back where you found it, this minute"!

The little boy says "sod this, I've been an Orangeman for 10 minutes and I've been re-routed three times already".
(07-12-2016, 09:54 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-12-2016, 09:47 AM)Malcolm Tucker Wrote: [ -> ]Just been reading through the BBC about the Twelfth celebrations and all it entails, and fuck me they are a seriously backwards nation. Deliberately antagonistic orange marches passing through nationalist areas and nationalists dropping pipe bombs along the routes of some of the main marches. Then some genius of an MP decides to post a picture of himself on Twitter in front of a bonfire with a tricolour on the top 

It's hard to see there ever being a properly peaceful resolution over there and there has already been talk over the last few months that nationalist paramilitary groups are on the rise again

Seen some pictures of the bonfire where the idiots have either hung the Republic flag upside down or genuinely bought an Ivory Coast Flag by mistake.
When I was in Belfast last week that bonfire was being built and had a large board next to it saying 'Foreigners Out'. Added to which it was massive and next to a brand new apartment block and a Holiday Inn.
Loffin @ foreigners out when the vast majority of loyalists have Scottish ancestry.
Northern Ireland is a beautiful place, if you look beyond the bigotry.
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