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16 years in the wildereness/ now almost as many years back so taking stock - spandaubaggie - 04-21-2017

I was 20 when we went down in 1986. I'd seen us promoted in 75/76, my first year as a supporter, and seen us spend a decade in the top flight in that period, in which time we'd come close to being champions and winning trophies. I thought it'd always be the case.
86-02 changed all that. Firstly I thought we'd be back in 3 years or so, like we had in the 70s.
We then saw 3rd division football, the Woking embarrassment, and a decade plus of low crowds and some crushing defeats to football's makeweights like Plymouth, Stockport, Crewe and Swindon. The good times were precious few in that period. Only Ardile'ss season, a brief spell under Talbot and even briefer one under Harford gave us any glimmers of hope. 
That rebuild under Megson, which culminated with today's anniversary was little short of a footballing miracle. We were on the road to ruin.
It's time to look at the progress. Has our club evolved in that time in the way we would have dreamt?
By and large, most of us would say yes. Now here we are, looking forward to an 8th year in the top flight.
Only gripes seems to be about Pulis's pragmatism, a bewilderment why more fans aren't coming, and frustration that we seem cemented in a football order cast in stone, where the next stage actually isn't really anything tangible other than feeling more comfy in the Prem than we are, whilst still not challenging for silverware. 
It may not be as much fun as it was in the yo-yo years, but I like supporting my local club, which can compete with some of the biggest football teams on the globe and occasionally beat them.
The Prem's razamatazz is slightly galling to us old enough to see through the hype, but anniversaries like this remind me of Ron Saunders, Gould, Buckley etc which was for years the norm and make me grateful for now.


RE: 16 years in the wildereness/ now almost as many years back so taking stock - 110percentBaggie - 04-21-2017

I think the plight of our neighbours makes make of us even more grateful. Really for the clubs of our stature we are currently the best performing one in the country. Look at Forest- longer out of the top flight now than we were.
It's the best time to be a Baggie for a generation.


RE: 16 years in the wildereness/ now almost as many years back so taking stock - Derek Hardballs - 04-21-2017

(04-21-2017, 10:19 AM)110percentBaggie Wrote: I think the plight of our neighbours makes make of us even more grateful. Really for the clubs of our stature we are currently the best performing one in the country. Look at Forest- longer out of the top flight now than we were.
It's the best time to be a Baggie for a generation.

Worra about the next level ffs!


RE: 16 years in the wildereness/ now almost as many years back so taking stock - Donegal - 04-21-2017

Derek Hardballs Wrote:
110percentBaggie Wrote:I think the plight of our neighbours makes make of us even more grateful. Really for the clubs of our stature we are currently the best performing one in the country. Look at Forest- longer out of the top flight now than we were.
It's the best time to be a Baggie for a generation.

Worra about the next level ffs!
Ar, and the 2nd tier


RE: 16 years in the wildereness/ now almost as many years back so taking stock - 110percentBaggie - 04-21-2017

(04-21-2017, 10:51 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(04-21-2017, 10:19 AM)110percentBaggie Wrote: I think the plight of our neighbours makes make of us even more grateful. Really for the clubs of our stature we are currently the best performing one in the country. Look at Forest- longer out of the top flight now than we were.
It's the best time to be a Baggie for a generation.

Worra about the next level ffs!
Original post shows what most of us know. The next level doesn't really exist for clubs like us. This is pretty-much as good as it gets.


RE: 16 years in the wildereness/ now almost as many years back so taking stock - cunninghamismagic - 04-21-2017

(04-21-2017, 09:59 AM)spandaubaggie Wrote: I was 20 when we went down in 1986. I'd seen us promoted in 75/76, my first year as a supporter, and seen us spend a decade in the top flight in that period, in which time we'd come close to being champions and winning trophies. I thought it'd always be the case.
86-02 changed all that. Firstly I thought we'd be back in 3 years or so, like we had in the 70s.
We then saw 3rd division football, the Woking embarrassment, and a decade plus of low crowds and some crushing defeats to football's makeweights like Plymouth, Stockport, Crewe and Swindon. The good times were precious few in that period. Only Ardile'ss season, a brief spell under Talbot and even briefer one under Harford gave us any glimmers of hope. 
That rebuild under Megson, which culminated with today's anniversary was little short of a footballing miracle. We were on the road to ruin.
It's time to look at the progress. Has our club evolved in that time in the way we would have dreamt?
By and large, most of us would say yes. Now here we are, looking forward to an 8th year in the top flight.
Only gripes seems to be about Pulis's pragmatism, a bewilderment why more fans aren't coming, and frustration that we seem cemented in a football order cast in stone, where the next stage actually isn't really anything tangible other than feeling more comfy in the Prem than we are, whilst still not challenging for silverware. 
It may not be as much fun as it was in the yo-yo years, but I like supporting my local club, which can compete with some of the biggest football teams on the globe and occasionally beat them.
The Prem's razamatazz is slightly galling to us old enough to see through the hype, but anniversaries like this remind me of Ron Saunders, Gould, Buckley etc which was for years the norm and make me grateful for now.

Good post lad


RE: 16 years in the wildereness/ now almost as many years back so taking stock - 110percentBaggie - 04-21-2017

(04-21-2017, 01:22 PM)cunninghamismagic Wrote:
(04-21-2017, 09:59 AM)spandaubaggie Wrote: I was 20 when we went down in 1986. I'd seen us promoted in 75/76, my first year as a supporter, and seen us spend a decade in the top flight in that period, in which time we'd come close to being champions and winning trophies. I thought it'd always be the case.
86-02 changed all that. Firstly I thought we'd be back in 3 years or so, like we had in the 70s.
We then saw 3rd division football, the Woking embarrassment, and a decade plus of low crowds and some crushing defeats to football's makeweights like Plymouth, Stockport, Crewe and Swindon. The good times were precious few in that period. Only Ardile'ss season, a brief spell under Talbot and even briefer one under Harford gave us any glimmers of hope. 
That rebuild under Megson, which culminated with today's anniversary was little short of a footballing miracle. We were on the road to ruin.
It's time to look at the progress. Has our club evolved in that time in the way we would have dreamt?
By and large, most of us would say yes. Now here we are, looking forward to an 8th year in the top flight.
Only gripes seems to be about Pulis's pragmatism, a bewilderment why more fans aren't coming, and frustration that we seem cemented in a football order cast in stone, where the next stage actually isn't really anything tangible other than feeling more comfy in the Prem than we are, whilst still not challenging for silverware. 
It may not be as much fun as it was in the yo-yo years, but I like supporting my local club, which can compete with some of the biggest football teams on the globe and occasionally beat them.
The Prem's razamatazz is slightly galling to us old enough to see through the hype, but anniversaries like this remind me of Ron Saunders, Gould, Buckley etc which was for years the norm and make me grateful for now.

Good post lad
Yep, it really is a top post. It sums up everything pretty-much in a nutshell or where we are now and where football is. It's human nature to always want the best, but pound for pound there's precious few clubs who have the status we have managed to achieve past few years. It's a great achievement by all involved, especially JP.


RE: 16 years in the wildereness/ now almost as many years back so taking stock - Seen one wall - 04-21-2017

(04-21-2017, 09:59 AM)spandaubaggie Wrote: I was 20 when we went down in 1986. I'd seen us promoted in 75/76, my first year as a supporter, and seen us spend a decade in the top flight in that period, in which time we'd come close to being champions and winning trophies. I thought it'd always be the case.
86-02 changed all that. Firstly I thought we'd be back in 3 years or so, like we had in the 70s.
We then saw 3rd division football, the Woking embarrassment, and a decade plus of low crowds and some crushing defeats to football's makeweights like Plymouth, Stockport, Crewe and Swindon. The good times were precious few in that period. Only Ardile'ss season, a brief spell under Talbot and even briefer one under Harford gave us any glimmers of hope. 
That rebuild under Megson, which culminated with today's anniversary was little short of a footballing miracle. We were on the road to ruin.
It's time to look at the progress. Has our club evolved in that time in the way we would have dreamt?
By and large, most of us would say yes. Now here we are, looking forward to an 8th year in the top flight.
Only gripes seems to be about Pulis's pragmatism, a bewilderment why more fans aren't coming, and frustration that we seem cemented in a football order cast in stone, where the next stage actually isn't really anything tangible other than feeling more comfy in the Prem than we are, whilst still not challenging for silverware. 
It may not be as much fun as it was in the yo-yo years, but I like supporting my local club, which can compete with some of the biggest football teams on the globe and occasionally beat them.
The Prem's razamatazz is slightly galling to us old enough to see through the hype, but anniversaries like this remind me of Ron Saunders, Gould, Buckley etc which was for years the norm and make me grateful for now.

'Footballs makeweights'

You epitomise what a large a majority of our fans have become....


RE: 16 years in the wildereness/ now almost as many years back so taking stock - spandaubaggie - 04-21-2017

(04-21-2017, 06:56 PM)Seen one wall Wrote:
(04-21-2017, 09:59 AM)spandaubaggie Wrote: I was 20 when we went down in 1986. I'd seen us promoted in 75/76, my first year as a supporter, and seen us spend a decade in the top flight in that period, in which time we'd come close to being champions and winning trophies. I thought it'd always be the case.
86-02 changed all that. Firstly I thought we'd be back in 3 years or so, like we had in the 70s.
We then saw 3rd division football, the Woking embarrassment, and a decade plus of low crowds and some crushing defeats to football's makeweights like Plymouth, Stockport, Crewe and Swindon. The good times were precious few in that period. Only Ardile'ss season, a brief spell under Talbot and even briefer one under Harford gave us any glimmers of hope. 
That rebuild under Megson, which culminated with today's anniversary was little short of a footballing miracle. We were on the road to ruin.
It's time to look at the progress. Has our club evolved in that time in the way we would have dreamt?
By and large, most of us would say yes. Now here we are, looking forward to an 8th year in the top flight.
Only gripes seems to be about Pulis's pragmatism, a bewilderment why more fans aren't coming, and frustration that we seem cemented in a football order cast in stone, where the next stage actually isn't really anything tangible other than feeling more comfy in the Prem than we are, whilst still not challenging for silverware. 
It may not be as much fun as it was in the yo-yo years, but I like supporting my local club, which can compete with some of the biggest football teams on the globe and occasionally beat them.
The Prem's razamatazz is slightly galling to us old enough to see through the hype, but anniversaries like this remind me of Ron Saunders, Gould, Buckley etc which was for years the norm and make me grateful for now.

'Footballs makeweights'

You epitomise what a large a majority of our fans have become....
PC touchy brigade alert. Letting in 5 or so goals v teams who have less than illustrious status in the football chain is something fine with you then. As I said I appreciate where we are and so sorry to have upset you judging the likes of the mighty Crewe.


RE: 16 years in the wildereness/ now almost as many years back so taking stock - Dreamkiller - 04-21-2017

(04-21-2017, 07:10 PM)spandaubaggie Wrote:
(04-21-2017, 06:56 PM)Seen one wall Wrote:
(04-21-2017, 09:59 AM)spandaubaggie Wrote: I was 20 when we went down in 1986. I'd seen us promoted in 75/76, my first year as a supporter, and seen us spend a decade in the top flight in that period, in which time we'd come close to being champions and winning trophies. I thought it'd always be the case.
86-02 changed all that. Firstly I thought we'd be back in 3 years or so, like we had in the 70s.
We then saw 3rd division football, the Woking embarrassment, and a decade plus of low crowds and some crushing defeats to football's makeweights like Plymouth, Stockport, Crewe and Swindon. The good times were precious few in that period. Only Ardile'ss season, a brief spell under Talbot and even briefer one under Harford gave us any glimmers of hope. 
That rebuild under Megson, which culminated with today's anniversary was little short of a footballing miracle. We were on the road to ruin.
It's time to look at the progress. Has our club evolved in that time in the way we would have dreamt?
By and large, most of us would say yes. Now here we are, looking forward to an 8th year in the top flight.
Only gripes seems to be about Pulis's pragmatism, a bewilderment why more fans aren't coming, and frustration that we seem cemented in a football order cast in stone, where the next stage actually isn't really anything tangible other than feeling more comfy in the Prem than we are, whilst still not challenging for silverware. 
It may not be as much fun as it was in the yo-yo years, but I like supporting my local club, which can compete with some of the biggest football teams on the globe and occasionally beat them.
The Prem's razamatazz is slightly galling to us old enough to see through the hype, but anniversaries like this remind me of Ron Saunders, Gould, Buckley etc which was for years the norm and make me grateful for now.

'Footballs makeweights'

You epitomise what a large a majority of our fans have become....
PC touchy brigade alert. Letting in 5 or so goals v teams who have less than illustrious status in the football chain is something fine with you then. As I said I appreciate where we are and so sorry to have upset you judging the likes of the mighty Crewe.

You can never make Crewe sound more insignificant than they really are. You let them off lightly.