UK Covid death toll

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Still 245 deaths again today !
Far too high and the rate seems to be coming down far slower than other countries at similar stages.

Careful, you'll be accused of hysteria in a minute

Amazing how people don’t like truth and facts eh!

It is 245 too many. But there would have been on average 140 flu deaths anyway based on previous years figures and circa 200 poisoning deaths today as well.

It's not that the numbers are obviously bad, and many are due to the appalling handling of care homes, it's that these figures have no context so people bandy them around to create a hysteria.

I'm more worried about the 60k less cases of diagnosed cancer this year so far, the 10 million waiting list on the NHS we've supposedly protected and the deaths from an economy that will have 3m unemployed by the end of the year. That's hysteria I can hear.

I think you are right, Billy.

If we don't see a rise in cases following this weekends events, then i think it proves there is little infection in the community.

The problem was we just weren't prepared for this, and I doubt any of our governments would have been in the last 30 years.

Agree with the 1st point KKC, but the govt ran a epidemic simulation and one of the recommendations was that we would not have enough PPE available. This was ignored and led us to be even less prepared than we should have been. Agree that this really caught the world by surprise but we could have had that extra defence in place by simply following our own recommendations.

It wasn't simply the late lockdown which was being discussed but not pushed for, it was the obvious steps that people were talking about - stopping Cheltenham and other large gatherings as well as screening at airports. There was also the half hearted approach to the lockdown when it happened - closing the pubs but leaving them open for a few days so that people could get a last drink, not actually closing pubs - just telling people they couldn't go to them.

All through this there has been no forward thinking, just reaction to who is shouting loudest. And also for preparedness, there have been countries around Europe that saw this at the same time as us and have fared much better, Germany probably being the best example.

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Still 245 deaths again today !
Far too high and the rate seems to be coming down far slower than other countries at similar stages.

Careful, you'll be accused of hysteria in a minute

Amazing how people don’t like truth and facts eh!

It is 245 too many. But there would have been on average 140 flu deaths anyway based on previous years figures and circa 200 poisoning deaths today as well.

It's not that the numbers are obviously bad, and many are due to the appalling handling of care homes, it's that these figures have no context so people bandy them around to create a hysteria.

I'm more worried about the 60k less cases of diagnosed cancer this year so far, the 10 million waiting list on the NHS we've supposedly protected and the deaths from an economy that will have 3m unemployed by the end of the year. That's hysteria I can hear.

The 245 is on top of the normal deaths BB, the excess deaths figure for week 22 (29th May) was 1,564 and the deaths with covid on the death certificate for that week were 1,822 so without covid we would have had a net death improvement year on year of 258 which is about 3% of total deaths for that week, we're talking minimal change taking into account other deaths such as road accidents will be down. 

Covid is still a problem but hopefully it is now on it's last legs - one figure that I haven't seen which would be more telling is the number of hospital admissions, which has disappeared from the govt slides for some reason. That would be the best measure of how this is going to impact going forward.