UK Covid death toll

[billybassett]

I’ve tried logic and joined up thinking it doesn’t work. 

I think some have this idea we have thousands of NHS staff who can be called upon to deal with an influx of Covid patients (a logical conclusion of to going back to normal) and at the same time treat Cancer and other serious illnesses. Presumably once the cancer and other seriously ill patients are out of hospital recovering or undertaking a course of treatment they are are just told to shield at home for a few months perhaps years because they’ve then become as inconvenient to everyone else’s freedoms as the old, already vulnerable and disabled. 

As you said we to try and suppress the spread of the virus because to not do so means you damage the economy and the health of the country. It should not be a a choice between treating non Covid patients and Covid patients. The problem is incompetence in implementation by the government and people ignoring the rules. That won’t be solved by everyone back to normal because it won’t be ahem normal!

This is the issue. Living with respiratory viruses is the normal. Covid is a non-lethal respiratory virus (more lethal than circulating influenza covid strains mind). You're getting confused with what's normal and not because that's what the govt want.

The PCR test is absolutely flawed, if you need evidence I can provide, thus mass testing only exacerbates the govts requirement to push the "casedemic" and thus negatively affect the general health of the majority of the population. This is also part of the reason the test and trace is flawed and not working because mass testing under the PCR test is flawed.

3.5k people in hospital, circa 24% of those are nosocomial Covid as they are tested for Covid when they enter add that to the PCR false positives plus the asymptomatics are lumped in.

Your unrelenting need to keep coming back to that I'm suggesting it should be "a choice between treating non Covid patients and Covid patients" is completely non-sensical. It shouldn't be a choice as everyone should still be being seen. The fact is the choice you are advocating is not seeing anyone and keeping us locked down.  Median age at covid19 death is 83y, 1y older than non-Covid19 deaths. Are you abolishing death now?

OFCOM has prevented main media from reporting other than the Govt line on covid19 since lockdown day 1. Check out their Coronavirus Broadcasting Regulations. Thus we are all being duped (well not me and maybe a couple more on here) in true 1984 style the Ministry of Cummings Propaganda and van Tam's advice to keep us all from acquiring immunity so he can sell his vaccine that he's associated to.

Wake up and smell the coffee my ponners

So why are they doing it? Why are they making themselves look more and more incompetent or in some cases downright dodgy? Why are Hobbling the economy on the eve of another shit show called Brexit? You seem to be heading down the conspiracy theory route BB and I’m not trying to be rude it just reads that way. If you have a theory then explain it as it might help understand your position more.

I'm going to spool this out off the top of my head. Prof Drosten(?I think) came up with a PCR test for Mers-Covid in circa 2014. That polymerase chain reaction test took just a few 1 or 2 fragments of RNA and uses temperature cycling to make to increase those fragments such that testing can be applied. That PCR test and the one for swine flu previously were proven to not be successful in providing high percentage positive success rates. In 2019 he tinkered on his own computer with then wuhan sars-cov2 strain (I won't digress here but he didn't actually have access to the actual strain when he did this). A strain of covid shares much the same sequencing as all the mutated flus we have each year. In fact to digress, because the covid strain is similar our T-cells (our memory cells for immunology) already have a circa 30% ability to react to the infection. Hence asymptomatic cases.

The PCR test now if you get one has a disclaimer that says something like it can't detect a positive Covid infection. The CDC publication in July in US on page 38 says PCR test is not a successful tool for diagnosing infections.

As to why. Drosten, Wheeler and others are locked into large pharmaceutical supply chains. Drosten during swine flu did the same, said we were all going to die and the PCR test was indicative of that and we all need a vaccine. Millions of doses of tamiflu were bought around the world with tax payer money and many million doses of tamiflu (and other variants) were destroyed using tax payers money as thankfully the powers that be didn't swallow the full ticket of lies. It's only actually the Chinese source of this that has enabled this to get this far. Praying on people's fears.

It's all about large pharmaceuticals and their sponsors, about poor leadership and scientific advice. SAGE should all resign it's disgraceful the information that's being put out. Last night BBC put out a big 65 deaths today headline - guess what the sub title was at the bottom - all deaths not just covid.

van Tam is linked directly to companies who are desperate to make a vaccine. Ferguson has no experience in respiratory illness and is a Physicist by education. Vallance's shocking remarks about re-infection are so wide of any scientific immunology research/knowledge it's palpably corrupt. The 50000 a day modelling was laughed out of town by most hugely respected scientists in the field.

There's currently a class action I believe that's started that is trying to bring a Crimes Against Humanity claim against those who started this misinformation and corruption. Whether it will get anywhere I don't know but it's off the back of many testimonies already to a Corona commission that took place in July.

If there's any justice it should succeed but at very minimum show these charlatans for what they are - bunch of power mad paid for corrupt tossers.