UK Covid death toll

[billybassett]

Here's one for you Deko

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationa...tember2020

You think you're saving lives banging the everyone must be saved at all costs drum. You're probably actually killing more of them just slowly

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Also extending my post re the army tests yesterday the govt has published:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/oxfor...=immediate

220 positive from 44k tests. False positive rate 0.36% positives rate 0.5%

So even though nobody actually responded to the info I put about this yesterday this is again a damning verdict once more in the sense that there are no positives in that batch of tests and the PCR test that is giving 2.5% positives is producing mainly false positives as I've been saying for months.

If the projections of cases and admissions was based on this data rather than what Sage would like with the PCR (so they can sell their tests and make money from a vaccine ) we'd now be living our lives normally and not.killing ourselves slowly.

But to do that of course would mean politicians and sage admitting they are wrong. I'd be better off searching for hens teeth rather than waiting for that.

I expect no response but you should really be writing to your mp about this fraud.

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Possibly SM - if that's the case it isn't excess deaths and that's what I think Billy is getting confused over. To get a real understanding it has to be like for like.

I'm not confused about what excess deaths are. Seems like I'm the only one on here not confused by the PCR test invalidity though.

So you want to base predictions on cases and admissions on testing asymptomatic people, not people who actually have symptoms or even on real life cases, admissions and ICU occupancy. Nuts

This is such a bizarre reply baggy1. I've never said anything such. Tells me a lot about where your mind is re this testing. The PCR test tests asymptomatic people. It tests literally thousands and thousands of them every day. Unless you're telling me seriously 300,000 people had symptoms yesterday. Obviously not.

I've said for months we shouldn't be testing anyone unless they show symptoms. I've consistently said we should also use a test that is fit for purpose, i.e. thermocycle les than 24 times, use 2 primers, publish the false positive rate (like they do on every other test - even the army one now is published so why not the PCR test FFS) and if a positive returns test then do a second test to confirm. That's called proper lab testing.

If, and only if, on that basis we had thousands of actual cases every day then yes I'd be worried. But we don't and the Liverpool army test goes to prove how wrong that PCR test is.

We've been living since June in a "casedemic" not an epidemic. I'd have thought the penny may have dropped for many but seemingly not, they can't get past "cases" as portrayed on BBC. I found it a little sinister in June that once the deaths chart wasn't a compelling graph all the MSM moved to a cases chart that had a nice rising curve.

Hospital admissions aren't stretched for this time of year (other than for the reason 1000s of nurses and doctors are being told to self isolate even though they are perfectly fine - all based on the PCR test again), excess deaths are in line for this time of year - but yes lets see how they get on as per my previous post with the graphs that's been ignored, lockdowns don't work and masks are a waste of time.

I'm surprised baggy1 that you slurr me for no reason but make no attempt to counter the army testing numbers.