UK Covid death toll

[billybassett]

You call it lunacy yet a medical system that only treats one illness at the cost of everything else is just that.

You quote 13k like it's extraordinary. 700,000 admissions a year for respiratory/lung related conditions - many cancer many more influenza, copd, asthma etc etc. 115000 people a year die of a condition of the respiratory tract.

That 13k is again completely out of context because are you saying ALL those people are being treated for Covid because they are symptomatic and need treatment for Covid?

Of course not it means those admitted to hospital who have tested "positive" for covid which will be a proportion of symptomatic and a proportion asymptomatic. The proportion of asymptomatic will be very much higher otherwise the PCR results would be tracking symptoms and A&E attendances and COVID deaths would be correlated regionally to excess deaths which they are not. Also the majority will be there for some other treatment.

Estimates are that between 20-30% of covid "positives" are actually "caught" in hospital.

You call my numbers heresy and my opinion lunacy but then you post a number out of context that's meant to shock.

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billy you keep mentioning that flu has disappeared.

from this weeks figures

deaths with covid mentioned on death certificate was 1937 with 1743 with covid as the underlying cause.

deaths where flu and pneumonia mentioned were 2267 with 307 as covid as the underlying cause.

when this debate started on here you made a lot more sense than you are now.

you still have lots of valid points but they are getting lost amongst some of you other musings.

You've only got to go to the Global Influenza Surveillance and Response System (GISRS) and see how influenza has completely dropped off the map.