UK Covid death toll

[baggy1]

I know people have always died at home - I said that 140 excess deaths a day are happening at home.

People have always died in hospitals too but you were referring to excess deaths which is what I am stating. 

If 140 excess deaths a day are at home then that means that half of that excess 2000 figure are people who most likely did not die of Covid.

Why would the Government cover up the other figures you ask? I never said that they were but they are not the most honest Govt we have ever had are they? Doctors, nurses ,coroners etc don't have to be 'in on it'. If someone dies in hospital and has a positive test then they go in the stats as you know. My Dad fell down the stairs 4 weeks ago and fractured his spine - he was in a bad way for a few days. He was tested whilst in hospital - if that test had been positive he would have been included as 'a covid hospital case' where the truth was he was actually being treated for his spine.

Hospitals weren't accepting people during the pandemic therefore they died at home, that is why there is more people died at home this year than normal. And again someone is being naughty with the figures here. Deaths at home for the period to September (I can't find anything else) is up about 27k on normal in E&W, in a period where hospitals were mainly shut this doesn't surprise me. And of those 27k would all of them have survived if they'd have gone to hospital, probably not - do we know how many, definitely not. It's just a stat thrown in to muddy the water.

There is one big difference this year and that is Covid, if you know of anything else that has caused about a 15% increase in deaths then let me know.