UK Covid death toll

[PeakBaggie]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/LBeo24BvA5PU/

Is this Billy in disguise? Worth a listen if you have time. It very much supports much of what Billy says on here and its from the mouth of someone with a very strong respiratory pharmacol background.

I genuinely don't know who I believe any more. Vallance and Van Tam or Yeadon and Gupta. All vastly experienced in their fields but seem to be poles apart.

I find myself distrusting Vallance more and more given they are working so closely with the most untrustworthy and corrupt govt in my lifetime.

Compelling evidence on the face of it, but I still maintain that if you torture the stats enough
you can produce data or graphs that supports any view either side of the debate.

I prefer to put what faith I have in those on the front line in this battle against the virus. They
tell me that they have never faced anything like what they have been fighting for the past 9
months in ICU. Winters have come and gone, but they have witnessed illness and deaths like
no other year since they can remember. In point of fact, the second wave that so many deny is
happening, has claimed more victims that the first wave back in April/May. One said to me that
the politicians and SAGE are not in charge anymore than those that oppose, the virus is in
control again and only the advances in treatment and much more effective PPE is preventing
the situation becoming out of control.

As counterintuitive as that might sound because we clearly have less deaths this time, you can see that when you look at the attachment which is for people in hospital. Even though the peak isn't as high, the rising increase in numbers is spread over a longer period than earlier in the year. This means that people are taking up hospital beds for longer (for a good reason btw - they aren't dying) and if the decrease of the wave is the same as before then it will mean that this has taken more resource (staff time and beds) than the 1st wave although the 1st wave was more deadly.

In simple terms it took 24 days to get from 1,500 in hospital to the peak of 17k, whereas this time it has taken 60 days to reach this peak from 1,500 to 13.5k. It will have taken a lot more resource and stamina from NHS staff this time.

Baggy1 - I was not referring to national stats but to the facts from the local trust, where they have more beds occupied
than in the first wave and also have more deaths this second wave sadly. I will balance that by adding that so far in this
wave they have not lost any staff to the virus, they lost 3 earlier in the year but with the correct PPE that at least seems
to have been corrected.
Thankfully both infection control and advanced theraputics seems to be helping many of those in ICU and the red wards
despite the increase in deaths The toll on staff numbers is seriously concerning. Last night for example one nurse was looking 
after multiple ICU beds and that is a dangerous practice but reflects the pressure on the team. 
Cue the seasonal flu bollocks to be mentioned by someone...