07-05-2021, 08:47 AM
Just an observation following DH’s posting of those graphs.
Looking at the figures for confirmed cases, it does look pretty bad in comparison with the rest of Europe but is that as straight forward as is suggested by those graphs? I didn’t see any statistic on testing in those graphs, so I had a quick check myself and found the following:
Daily tests per Million. Up to 30th June.
Austria 41,351
U.K. 15,824
Denmark 12,165
Belgium 4,403
France 3,620
Italy 2,823
Norway 2,705
Spain 1,792
Sweden 1,502
Germany 1,203
Netherlands 774
Hungary 762
So, clearly, we are doing far more testing than many other countries. (Despite all the doom mongering about how poor and inefficient we are performing)
These figures do show that we are finding more cases per million people than some countries (i.e. U.K. 3 cases, Spain 1 case and the others less than 1 case) but the article does give the following caveat;
“Where the number of confirmed cases is high relative to the extent of testing, this suggests that there may not be enough tests being carried out to properly monitor the outbreak. In such countries, the true number of infections may be far higher than the number of confirmed cases.”
My question; doesn’t it follow that the more you test, the more confirmed cases you will find?
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing
My own view now, as someone who has followed the guidelines and rules implicitly over the last 15 months or so, is, as Kit Kat says “ normality has to return” at some point. The economy has to start moving fully again. The coffers are more than bare. As callous as it may sound and any Trekkie fan will confirm Spock’s truism ‘ Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.’ Just to say, before some accuse me of being flippant, I have a wife, brother, sister-in-law and mother all in the ‘at risk’ category (and I’m on the cusp) and three of those, who are compos mentis , all are of the opinion that things should return to, as close as possible, to normality.
Looking at the figures for confirmed cases, it does look pretty bad in comparison with the rest of Europe but is that as straight forward as is suggested by those graphs? I didn’t see any statistic on testing in those graphs, so I had a quick check myself and found the following:
Daily tests per Million. Up to 30th June.
Austria 41,351
U.K. 15,824
Denmark 12,165
Belgium 4,403
France 3,620
Italy 2,823
Norway 2,705
Spain 1,792
Sweden 1,502
Germany 1,203
Netherlands 774
Hungary 762
So, clearly, we are doing far more testing than many other countries. (Despite all the doom mongering about how poor and inefficient we are performing)
These figures do show that we are finding more cases per million people than some countries (i.e. U.K. 3 cases, Spain 1 case and the others less than 1 case) but the article does give the following caveat;
“Where the number of confirmed cases is high relative to the extent of testing, this suggests that there may not be enough tests being carried out to properly monitor the outbreak. In such countries, the true number of infections may be far higher than the number of confirmed cases.”
My question; doesn’t it follow that the more you test, the more confirmed cases you will find?
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing
My own view now, as someone who has followed the guidelines and rules implicitly over the last 15 months or so, is, as Kit Kat says “ normality has to return” at some point. The economy has to start moving fully again. The coffers are more than bare. As callous as it may sound and any Trekkie fan will confirm Spock’s truism ‘ Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.’ Just to say, before some accuse me of being flippant, I have a wife, brother, sister-in-law and mother all in the ‘at risk’ category (and I’m on the cusp) and three of those, who are compos mentis , all are of the opinion that things should return to, as close as possible, to normality.