UK Covid death toll

[backsidebaggie]

The discussion should be where we're going as a whole. Fines and prison in Austria. Fines and prison! Give it a month, they'll be joined by a couple more countries. For a vaccine that, I'll say again, does NOT prevent transmission. This is fucking insanity.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/229...accinated/

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/231557/c...ion-delta/

Here are 3 articles that show it reduces the spread greatly, there are loads out there. Surely every little step we can take to reducing transmission helps.

It reduces the spread yes. So does regular testing!

And this is the thing, every little step we can do should be done? Since when? I know covid isn't flu, I'm not saying it is - but the fact is, if we had all taken the flu vaccine for the last 20 years, there would have been less flu deaths and reduced spread. Guaranteed. That is fact. So why has there never been any coercion for this? Not a jot! Why? Every little thing would have helped then, but its never even been considered. No one has been called an anti vaxxer for not having the flu jab, ever!

Austria threatening prison. Every little step we take helps, so that's ok? Totally excluding those from society who don't want a vaccine? Imprisoning those who don't want a vaccine? Is that ok? Every little step helps, yes? You're happy with going that far? Every little thing helps after all? It will help. I guarantee it. So that's ok???!!!!

This is the covid tunnel vision I'm talking about. If it helps with covid a bit, go ahead! Doesn't matter about other impacts, bodily autonomy, state control, effects on mental health, businesses, people in poverty, the biggest division we've ever had.... nope, none of that matters. If it helps reduce covid by a bit, some will agree to anything! Its madness Baggy1. Its covid tunnel vision.

I go back to the lockdowns last year. Now I'm not saying they were wrong. I'm not. But where was the cost benefit analysis? Increase in cancer patients? Only thing open is takeaways so large proportions of the population stayed in getting obese for months. The mental health? I've recently returned to the office and the number of people who have put a lot of weight on is insane! ironically, given the link between covid and obesity......... The lockdowns were proportionate, I'm not saying they weren't, on balance. But alarm bells rang with me when covid took over as the ONLY factor being taken into account. Nothing else mattered. That rang alarm bells for me.

Given the fact obesity is heavily correlated with covid serious illness, where's the government "instructions" been to lose weight? They've been telling people to get the vaccine, hiring fucking celebrities all over the shop to persuade people, in one of the biggest media agendas in years. Massive persuasion. Followed by coercion. Yet not once, not once have they encouraged people to lose weight, even though there is a direct correlation between being overweight and serious covid illness (and quite a significant link). This is insanity! So if we go by the notion "every little step helps", where the fuck has the "persuasion" been to lose weight? No, they closed gyms, close fucking golf courses (the safest sport you can do in covid times!) and left takeaways open. Left open takeaways and closed golf courses!!!!! For our health!!! Its so ridiculous when I type it!

I live in Jewellery Quarter and the number of takeaways being delivered in the last 18 months is beyond anything I've ever comprehended. Its unbelievable! The government have never encouraged anything else health wise to do with "helping" against covid, fitness, general respiratory health, losing weight. They've done two things: Restrict movement and going places, and vaccines. And in many cases (see Scotland), that includes restricting movement of healthy unvaccinated people, while allowing vaccinated people with covid into places???!!!! Absolute insanity!!

Can you not see how many things don't add up? This is why more and more people are questioning things, and you'll find less take the booster than took the first two jabs. People are steadily wondering what the fuck is going on, because the contradictions are absolutely enormous!

I am honestly perplexed that the things I'm describing, the enormous contradictions, haven't been more obvious to people (although I believe more and more are questioning things). The covid propaganda has consumed many people's brains and they're not thinking proportionately. I truly believe this.

However, as I say, I believe more are seeing these contradictions and moving goalposts, and are saying bollocks to it. That's why people won't wear masks in places any more. Why should they comply with mask rules when many of the other rules make jack all sense?


In response to DH's points:

I imagine most Doctors and Nurses are utterly fed up of seeing those who have refused the jab in hospital after the grinding hard work they have put in now for two years. They must feel like they are hitting their head against a brick wall. There's plenty who haven't had it themselves. And I'd imagine most don't give a toss either way, like most people.

I can't feel much sympathy for those who refuse the vaccine without a medical reason, because I know those who would love to have it but can't and as a result of others who refuse the vaccine, refuse to wear masks, refuse to keep their distance, refuse to have lateral flow tests are put at serious risk every time they go out or their families have to go to work or school etc. Its not about feeling sympathy. Its about the bigger picture. Are you happy for the state to decide what medical procedure you have not to be a second class citizen? Is what is happening in Austria not slightly worrying to you? Prison? Fucking prison? This was a 5G standard conspiracy theory 12 months ago!!

Of course I can see the problems that losing staff will cause, it's a massive problem, but so is trying to manage our way as a country out of a pandemic with so many refusing to have a vaccine that whatever anyone argues to the contrary clearly helps reduce death and serious illness. What are you on about? So many refusing it? The uptake has been excellent! And in countries such as Ireland which have even bigger uptake, stricter restrictions on passports and masks, their situation is even worse!!! There's no evidence these things are working! If you think a few more per cent having the vaccine is going to get us out of this, you are totally deluded!