11-22-2021, 11:18 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-22-2021, 11:37 AM by backsidebaggie.)
You just don’t get it do you. People were told vaccination would get us out of this. 15M jabs for freedom. We have significant amounts vaccinated (including the vast majority of the vulnerable) but it’s not ending. Now many people are refusing to go through the sane things as last winter again, because of the vaccine take up is as high as it is, and it’s still not stopping spread, another few per cent ain’t making much difference.
I don’t propose anything for Belgium or the Netherlands. I’m just saying that an increasing number of people have had enough. That is clear. People are also looking at the big picture when it comes to some countries mandating vaccines or facing prison, or being segregated from society. This was a conspiracy theory last year.
There’s only two ways of changing some minds: total segregation from society, or force. Fuck that!
I’m not sure the evidence suggests the vaccine reduces spread substantially. It does reduce it, but substantially?
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lance...1/fulltext
But anyway, people have made their mind up. And many have had enough when we were told by “the science” that vaccines were the way out. We were NOT told that this includes people being sacked if they don’t want it, or worse in some countries.
“Ignoring in the name of freedom” is very lazy. Medical autonomy is very important to many people. If you don’t get that, and you don’t get that people have serious issues with large fines and prison in Austria, then you’re really missing the point.
Put simply, many people don’t believe the governments any more. And given the lies, the inconsistencies, the promises, I’m not surprised.
You say time to wise up or we’ll all face restrictions. This is the point you miss. People were told that the vaccination would get us back to normal. It’s not happened in many countries (we seem better off than most). Many people are not going to do more of the thing that was promised as being the answer, but hasn’t worked fully! And restrictions this time will be ignored by most, believe me. I reckon by February last year 60-70% of Birmingham residents were ignoring them. I could be wrong, but that’s how it seemed when I was stuck in traffic jams and seeing people in the JQ all mixing in houses/flats. This time people will see friends and family and will ignore it.
The fact you link protesting to dancing on graves is bullshit. People have the right to protest in relation to medical autonomy and covid passes. That does not mean they’re dancing on graves. That’s bull shit. That’s like saying someone who was very pro lockdown (say those who wanted zero covid plan) must automatically be dancing on the graves of those who were negatively impacted by lockdowns (mental health, cancer etc). It’s not true and is a good example of how easy it is to divide. But hey, who needs accuracy when a division like this has been created? I mean, an ONS survey indicated that only 8% of unvaccinated people are anti vax in general, but that hasn’t stopped many people falling for the division and lazily labelling of people who don’t want THIS vaccine. But that’s the idea, to get people in support of restrictions against those who dont want it. Divide divide divide. Let’s see how far it goes…..
I don’t propose anything for Belgium or the Netherlands. I’m just saying that an increasing number of people have had enough. That is clear. People are also looking at the big picture when it comes to some countries mandating vaccines or facing prison, or being segregated from society. This was a conspiracy theory last year.
There’s only two ways of changing some minds: total segregation from society, or force. Fuck that!
I’m not sure the evidence suggests the vaccine reduces spread substantially. It does reduce it, but substantially?
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lance...1/fulltext
But anyway, people have made their mind up. And many have had enough when we were told by “the science” that vaccines were the way out. We were NOT told that this includes people being sacked if they don’t want it, or worse in some countries.
“Ignoring in the name of freedom” is very lazy. Medical autonomy is very important to many people. If you don’t get that, and you don’t get that people have serious issues with large fines and prison in Austria, then you’re really missing the point.
Put simply, many people don’t believe the governments any more. And given the lies, the inconsistencies, the promises, I’m not surprised.
You say time to wise up or we’ll all face restrictions. This is the point you miss. People were told that the vaccination would get us back to normal. It’s not happened in many countries (we seem better off than most). Many people are not going to do more of the thing that was promised as being the answer, but hasn’t worked fully! And restrictions this time will be ignored by most, believe me. I reckon by February last year 60-70% of Birmingham residents were ignoring them. I could be wrong, but that’s how it seemed when I was stuck in traffic jams and seeing people in the JQ all mixing in houses/flats. This time people will see friends and family and will ignore it.
The fact you link protesting to dancing on graves is bullshit. People have the right to protest in relation to medical autonomy and covid passes. That does not mean they’re dancing on graves. That’s bull shit. That’s like saying someone who was very pro lockdown (say those who wanted zero covid plan) must automatically be dancing on the graves of those who were negatively impacted by lockdowns (mental health, cancer etc). It’s not true and is a good example of how easy it is to divide. But hey, who needs accuracy when a division like this has been created? I mean, an ONS survey indicated that only 8% of unvaccinated people are anti vax in general, but that hasn’t stopped many people falling for the division and lazily labelling of people who don’t want THIS vaccine. But that’s the idea, to get people in support of restrictions against those who dont want it. Divide divide divide. Let’s see how far it goes…..