UK Covid death toll

[backsidebaggie]

I also heard some say nearly 12 months ago they wanted to see what they were "signing up to". The fact it looks like jabs 4 and 5 are coming vindicates them. Its looking like one a year or second class citizen. Or in Greece and Austria, they'll be bankrupted instead. fucking hell!

This is the bit that I just can't get my head around - we can show conclusively that jabs work, we can show conclusively that they are safe, we can show conclusively that the best way out of this mess to gain our freedoms that people are marching for is to have the vaccines. So what exactly is the problem of having to have a 6 monthly vaccination until we see a global improvement.

On a side note I see they have identified the reason why one of the rare side affects is the blood clotting and are working to solve that problem.

The problem for some is they don't want an annual vaccine that hasn't been around 5 minutes. That's it. Some have also had nasty side effects, or know people who have. And as I say, the key here is for youngsters, their covid risks are very very small. That's what they're weighing it against. Many have had covid, some twice, most midly, they just don't want it. There's 5 million. And I think more will turn down the boosters at a guess.

And the fact you've said they're "conclusively safe" is simply not true. The bad side effects are very rare, but conclusively safe sounds like 100%. Not true.

And the best way out is to have vaccines? I'm afraid the last few months has indicated to many, given the large take up, that that is simply not true either. There are places in the world like Singapore who have almost 100% rate, and they had an enormous covid wave about 6 weeks ago and had to bring in further restrictions. If we're at 75%, another 10% ain't getting us out of this.

Agreed about the astrazeneca. I also believe Novavax may increase uptake slightly if that gets approved. Many are wary of the mRNA vaccines. I could be wrong but that's a hunch.