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Rondon
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(04-17-2018, 11:01 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: Anyone who thinks Rondon is the problem this season is utterly barmy. Yes he could and should score more goals, however, so could the rest of the fucking team. After JRod and Rondon (11 and 9 respectively), our next top scorers are our 3 centre backs, HRK and Phillips with 2. We have a combined 8 goals from the entirety of our midfield. This includes cup competitions. That is not remotely good enough.

By way of comparison, last season we had 5 goals each from Chadli, Morrison and Philips, 7 from GMac and 4 from Dawson. Season before we had 15 goals from midfield, and 7 from the defence.

So yes, whilst we would hope Rondon (and JRod) could contribute 15-20 goals a season, the lack of scoring from the rest of the team has hampered us more when compared to previous seasons. We've had a 15 goal season from strikers three times in recent seasons (Pete, Berahino, Lukaku), and Lukaku doesn't really count as we never owned him.

This ^

Said the other week, we haven't had no where near enough goals from midfield this season.
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#32
(04-17-2018, 11:01 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: Anyone who thinks Rondon is the problem this season is utterly barmy. Yes he could and should score more goals, however, so could the rest of the fucking team. After JRod and Rondon (11 and 9 respectively), our next top scorers are our 3 centre backs, HRK and Phillips with 2. We have a combined 8 goals from the entirety of our midfield. This includes cup competitions. That is not remotely good enough.

By way of comparison, last season we had 5 goals each from Chadli, Morrison and Philips, 7 from GMac and 4 from Dawson. Season before we had 15 goals from midfield, and 7 from the defence.

So yes, whilst we would hope Rondon (and JRod) could contribute 15-20 goals a season, the lack of scoring from the rest of the team has hampered us more when compared to previous seasons. We've had a 15 goal season from strikers three times in recent seasons (Pete, Berahino, Lukaku), and Lukaku doesn't really count as we never owned him.

Spot on.

You can get away with strikers whose all round play is good but don't score regularly if the rest of the team are contributing.

After the transfer window closed I looked at the wiki pages for our central midfield players and realised there wasn't one amongst then who was likely to score more than a couple of goals in a season. At that time thought we would be ok because with Morrision, Chadli and Phillips we would probably get just enough goals from them to avoid serious relegation worries . Didn't bargain for two of them being mostly unavailable due to injury and complete loss of form (or reversion to the norm?) from the other.
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#33
(04-17-2018, 11:01 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: Anyone who thinks Rondon is the problem this season is utterly barmy. Yes he could and should score more goals, however, so could the rest of the fucking team. After JRod and Rondon (11 and 9 respectively), our next top scorers are our 3 centre backs, HRK and Phillips with 2. We have a combined 8 goals from the entirety of our midfield. This includes cup competitions. That is not remotely good enough.

By way of comparison, last season we had 5 goals each from Chadli, Morrison and Philips, 7 from GMac and 4 from Dawson. Season before we had 15 goals from midfield, and 7 from the defence.

So yes, whilst we would hope Rondon (and JRod) could contribute 15-20 goals a season, the lack of scoring from the rest of the team has hampered us more when compared to previous seasons. We've had a 15 goal season from strikers three times in recent seasons (Pete, Berahino, Lukaku), and Lukaku doesn't really count as we never owned him.

+100

Rondon misses too many chances, but given the paucity of chances we create, they’re remembered a lot more. 

When you look outside the top 6 teams, Brighton are the only team with a striker in double figures and a fair few of Murray’s goals have been pens. After that most teams have strikers with 7-8 goals.

Rondon and Rodriguez have both been guilty of missing chancss, but for me the lack of a central midfielder following up on a lot of Rondon’s work, or the lack of goals from Brunt/Phillips are equally to blame. The fact that the 6 players to play central this season; Barry, Yacob, Livermore, Brunt, Krychowiak, and Field have mustered 2 league goals between them is shocking. Chadli and MOrrison have the same return in less than 90 minutes combined! 

Rondon is an effective battering ram and was for a couple of seasons,, but he needs players to make use of the space he creates. We’ve seen he will never be prolific in the PL as very few strikers are - even less so ones we can afford - so we need to make use of what he does well.
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(04-17-2018, 12:01 PM)Sw4Baggie Wrote:
(04-17-2018, 11:01 AM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: Anyone who thinks Rondon is the problem this season is utterly barmy. Yes he could and should score more goals, however, so could the rest of the fucking team. After JRod and Rondon (11 and 9 respectively), our next top scorers are our 3 centre backs, HRK and Phillips with 2. We have a combined 8 goals from the entirety of our midfield. This includes cup competitions. That is not remotely good enough.

By way of comparison, last season we had 5 goals each from Chadli, Morrison and Philips, 7 from GMac and 4 from Dawson. Season before we had 15 goals from midfield, and 7 from the defence.

So yes, whilst we would hope Rondon (and JRod) could contribute 15-20 goals a season, the lack of scoring from the rest of the team has hampered us more when compared to previous seasons. We've had a 15 goal season from strikers three times in recent seasons (Pete, Berahino, Lukaku), and Lukaku doesn't really count as we never owned him.

+100

Rondon misses too many chances, but given the paucity of chances we create, they’re remembered a lot more. 

When you look outside the top 6 teams, Brighton are the only team with a striker in double figures and a fair few of Murray’s goals have been pens. After that most teams have strikers with 7-8 goals.

Rondon and Rodriguez have both been guilty of missing chancss, but for me the lack of a central midfielder following up on a lot of Rondon’s work, or the lack of goals from Brunt/Phillips are equally to blame. The fact that the 6 players to play central this season; Barry, Yacob, Livermore, Brunt, Krychowiak, and Field have mustered 2 league goals between them is shocking. Chadli and MOrrison have the same return in less than 90 minutes combined! 

Rondon is an effective battering ram and was for a couple of seasons,, but he needs players to make use of the space he creates. We’ve seen he will never be prolific in the PL as very few strikers are - even less so ones we can afford - so we need to make use of what he does well.

This is another very good point - reminds me of Jason Roberts in our first premiership season.
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