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Didn't realise Macedonia had added the "North" bit.
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#2
Compromise with the Greeks where most of Macedonia lies in so they could join NATO.

Interesting that they're second in a group with Iceland and Germany, and that Armenia are top.
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Imagine would have happened had Germany played all of Macedonia.
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Dreadful loss for them.

But they'll still make it.

Am I being too ambitious and positive in thinking that England make actually win this thing?

Edit: Euros.
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(03-31-2021, 09:48 PM)Duffers Wrote: Imagine would have happened had Germany played all of Macedonia.

Amazing Big Grin
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Germany have really gone off the bill internationally. Way down in the international rankings. Never known them so bad.
However, with the countries with a pedigree they can soon change things around.
Incredible how England have underperformed since 66 when all the other big European and South American countries have nearly all won not one but two or three tournaments since.
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(04-01-2021, 06:12 AM)Spandaubaggie Wrote: Germany have really gone off the bill internationally. Way down in the international rankings. Never known them so bad.
However, with the countries with a pedigree they can soon change things around.
Incredible how England have underperformed since 66 when all the other big European and South American countries have nearly all won not one but two or three tournaments since.

It's called the Albion Phenomenon.
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(04-01-2021, 06:50 AM)baggiebloke Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 06:12 AM)Spandaubaggie Wrote: Germany have really gone off the bill internationally. Way down in the international rankings. Never known them so bad.
However, with the countries with a pedigree they can soon change things around.
Incredible how England have underperformed since 66 when all the other big European and South American countries have nearly all won not one but two or three tournaments since.

It's called the Albion Phenomenon.

Yep BB I've compared England to Albion before. To be fair though, this is a really good England team. Still expect it'll be France or Belgium who'll win the Euros.
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(04-01-2021, 07:14 AM)Spandaubaggie Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 06:50 AM)baggiebloke Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 06:12 AM)Spandaubaggie Wrote: Germany have really gone off the bill internationally. Way down in the international rankings. Never known them so bad.
However, with the countries with a pedigree they can soon change things around.
Incredible how England have underperformed since 66 when all the other big European and South American countries have nearly all won not one but two or three tournaments since.

It's called the Albion Phenomenon.

Yep BB I've compared England to Albion before. To be fair though, this is a really good England team. Still expect it'll be France or Belgium who'll win the Euros.

I think we’re a better side than Belgium, we just have a mental block when it comes to performing competitively against the better sides.

France are by far the strongest side in Europe, their depth is frightening.
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(04-01-2021, 08:00 AM)SW4Baggie Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 07:14 AM)Spandaubaggie Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 06:50 AM)baggiebloke Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 06:12 AM)Spandaubaggie Wrote: Germany have really gone off the bill internationally. Way down in the international rankings. Never known them so bad.
However, with the countries with a pedigree they can soon change things around.
Incredible how England have underperformed since 66 when all the other big European and South American countries have nearly all won not one but two or three tournaments since.

It's called the Albion Phenomenon.

Yep BB I've compared England to Albion before. To be fair though, this is a really good England team. Still expect it'll be France or Belgium who'll win the Euros.

I think we’re a better side than Belgium, we just have a mental block when it comes to performing competitively against the better sides.

France are by far the strongest side in Europe, their depth is frightening.
What do you think causes that `mental block`SW4 ? To be honest, Englands record in tournaments isn`t that impressive. World Cup, won one (at home, every game at Wembley, although had to beat Argentina, Portugal and W Germany, so still impressive ). Otherwise, even with, on paper, good sides, 1970, 1982, 1990 1998 etc , quarter final, or occasional semi final is our limit.
In the Euro`s we have one semi final to our name, again, at home, playing at Wembley, we`ve gone out in the first round in 1988, 1992, 2002. Is it a succession of average coaches, or players feeling the press will crucify them if they play badly ? Surely press /fans expectation and pressure is just as bad in Italy, Germany, Argentina etc.
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